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Shaun 10th July 2015 12:01 PM

Impact Values
 
I had some old sheets laying around with some of these values i used to use about 10 years back, thought i would put them in a current sheet and see how they perform today using my current ratings to prices module.

Code:
3Y-MDN $16000 IPSWICH Race No 1 No Selection R/Price 3 UNDERCOVER LOVER 2.01 2 GREEN STYLE 2.74 1 DR DEEJAY 5.96 MAIDEN $16000 IPSWICH Race No 2 No Selection R/Price 8 OL' BROWN EYES 2.65 3 REVELIO 2.93 4 VINNIE LOVES ME 4.20 MAIDEN $16000 IPSWICH Race No 3 No Selection R/Price 4 GOWAN BRAE 3.08 6 KNIGHT ERRANT 5.60 2 ENEMY'S DEFEATED 8.32 CL3 $16000 IPSWICH Race No 4 No Selection R/Price 1 WORTH THE WAIT 2.03 6 ALL CLEAR 3.28 2 CARTON 6.46 CL2 $16000 IPSWICH Race No 5 No Selection R/Price 3 JOBIWOOD 1.67 2 BEST OF TIMES 3.32 1 SUPERSTITION 12.54 FM-CL1 $16000 IPSWICH Race No 6 No Selection R/Price 2 BERGDORF 3.03 3 I DOUBT I CAN 5.12 8 CONCETTA 6.08 CL1 $16000 IPSWICH Race No 7 No Selection R/Price 7 STEERING 3.02 2 LONHIE ROCKS 3.52 3 YEAGER 9.32 CL5 $16000 IPSWICH Race No 8 No Selection R/Price 3 SUBSTATION 3.19 1 BASHAN 3.42 10 EYE WINSOME 4.72 MAIDEN $15000 GUNNEDAH Race No 1 No Selection R/Price 11 PARIS JET 4.01 3 JONAH HEX 4.04 7 HOT LAVA 5.38 MAIDEN $15000 GUNNEDAH Race No 2 No Selection R/Price 9 RED HOT DANE 3.59 10 SWEET HOLLY 5.89 2 LUCKY SOLDIER 6.02 CL1 $15000 GUNNEDAH Race No 3 No Selection R/Price 7 SUMMER SONG 1.78 6 MON SAMEDI 3.14 2 ELEGIES 8.00 CL2 $15000 GUNNEDAH Race No 4 No Selection R/Price 2 AYHAM 1.98 3 MARKET GURU 3.63 4 FIRST NOEL 8.54 MAIDEN $15000 GUNNEDAH Race No 5 No Selection R/Price 11 FRAUD 2.58 8 THE RUN 4.91 5 LEICA BOOT 5.80 FM-CL2 $15000 GUNNEDAH Race No 6 No Selection R/Price 3 PIXIE GAZE 2.35 2 SAN SABARTO 6.36 7 VICTORY LASS 7.04 BM-65 $15000 GUNNEDAH Race No 7 No Selection R/Price 7 INTREPIDO 2.64 9 SUBARC 5.58 1 IWILLDOIT 5.70 CL3 $15000 GUNNEDAH Race No 8 No Selection R/Price 1 HAMMOND LANE 0.88 2 HOT VINNI 65.77 12 TRUE COMMITMENT 85.00 MAIDEN $17500 GEELONG Race No 1 No Selection R/Price 7 SULLIVAN BAY 1.75 3 FELICETTE 2.52 2 PERSIAN MAGIC 10.20 2Y-MDN $17500 GEELONG Race No 2 No Selection R/Price 8 DEJA BLUE 1.24 4 LANDMARKS 8.00 12 SHINING STAR 9.54 MAIDEN $17500 GEELONG Race No 3 No Selection R/Price 7 JIM'S DANCER 2.99 8 STARS AT NIGHT 3.76 4 THAT'S A SLAB 4.58 3F-MDN $17500 GEELONG Race No 4 No Selection R/Price 8 LA CICCIOLINA 2.02 2 BLACK ZIGGY 3.32 1 BEAUTIFUL ASSASSIN 5.26 BM-64 $17500 GEELONG Race No 5 No Selection R/Price 9 SUN FLASH 1.11 1 WORK THE LINE 9.07 4 RENAUDIN 10.09 BM-78 $30000 GEELONG Race No 6 No Selection R/Price 2 INSPECTOR 1.54 5 HOLY HEART 5.89 8 KISS CHASEY 6.99 BM-64 $17500 GEELONG Race No 7 No Selection R/Price 2 MACROBIUS 2.53 6 ESPRIT DE SOL 5.75 7 GIFT FROM HEAVEN 8.45 BM-64 $30000 GEELONG Race No 8 No Selection R/Price 9 GAUTENG GAL 1.32 2 HAROLD BLUETOOTH 8.39 5 SHE'S ELLIE 9.34 MAIDEN $15000 WAGGA Race No 1 No Selection R/Price 1 CANNY HENRY 2.59 3 EXCELLENT ORATORIO 4.25 10 SPARE PARTS 6.85 3Y-MDN $15000 WAGGA Race No 2 No Selection R/Price 3 CATCH YA SLATER 2.86 12 HANDFUL OF ACES 4.17 9 SUPEROO 9.70 MAIDEN $15000 WAGGA Race No 3 No Selection R/Price 2 EL PAPPA 3.53 8 WILD DIVA 3.59 11 FIERY REDHEAD 4.47 BM-70 $15000 WAGGA Race No 4 No Selection R/Price 3 MR SOMMERVILLE 2.71 1 MUTUAL TRUST 4.19 2 JO JO GIRL 4.87 CL1 $15000 WAGGA Race No 5 No Selection R/Price 4 NORTHERN FURY 1.20 9 SAY YOU'RE SORRY 14.33 1 THE IMP 15.48 BM-70 $15000 WAGGA Race No 6 No Selection R/Price 2 EKLANDS 4.35 4 SMAKATUS 5.61 5 MAGNARO 7.29 BM-50 $16000 WAGGA Race No 7 No Selection R/Price 1 SAINT AQUILINA 3.47 4 ITCHYZARIZ 3.97 8 COBRA KAI 7.78 BM-50 $16000 WAGGA Race No 8 No Selection R/Price 1 SIR OTTAVIO 3.37 9 CAPTAIN HADDOCK 3.83 4 KING TIDES IN 5.80 BM-55 $15000 WAGGA Race No 9 No Selection R/Price 8 WILD IRISH BOY 1.75 1 LEUCURA 3.87 3 YARRAGEE ROAD 9.14

Shaun 10th July 2015 12:56 PM

Here is the comparison with my ratings.

Code:
3Y-MDN $16000 IPSWICH Race No 1 No Selection R/Price 2 GREEN STYLE 2.62 1 DR DEEJAY 3.75 3 UNDERCOVER LOVER 4.20 MAIDEN $16000 IPSWICH Race No 2 No Selection R/Price 4 VINNIE LOVES ME 3.17 8 OL' BROWN EYES 3.65 3 REVELIO 4.13 MAIDEN $16000 IPSWICH Race No 3 No Selection R/Price 4 GOWAN BRAE 2.78 6 KNIGHT ERRANT 5.82 3 GALIANO 7.81 CL3 $16000 IPSWICH Race No 4 No Selection R/Price 1 WORTH THE WAIT 2.81 4 OUTRAGED 4.71 2 CARTON 7.13 CL2 $16000 IPSWICH Race No 5 No Selection R/Price 2 BEST OF TIMES 4.43 3 JOBIWOOD 4.58 7 BENTLES 5.93 FM-CL1 $16000 IPSWICH Race No 6 No Selection R/Price 2 BERGDORF 3.82 1 MARASKA 4.51 3 I DOUBT I CAN 6.37 CL1 $16000 IPSWICH Race No 7 No Selection R/Price 2 LONHIE ROCKS 2.81 16 WORLD SERIES 6.63 3 YEAGER 8.44 CL5 $16000 IPSWICH Race No 8 No Selection R/Price 12 A FINE DROP OF RED 3.61 1 BASHAN 3.92 10 EYE WINSOME 5.73 MAIDEN $15000 GUNNEDAH Race No 1 No Selection R/Price 1 SEEKTOWIN 4.20 7 HOT LAVA 4.68 2 SPIRIT OF AN ANGEL 6.23 MAIDEN $15000 GUNNEDAH Race No 2 No Selection R/Price 10 SWEET HOLLY 4.22 9 RED HOT DANE 4.71 1 I AM THE SCULPTOR 4.89 CL1 $15000 GUNNEDAH Race No 3 No Selection R/Price 2 ELEGIES 2.73 7 SUMMER SONG 4.25 6 MON SAMEDI 5.59 CL2 $15000 GUNNEDAH Race No 4 No Selection R/Price 2 AYHAM 3.02 3 MARKET GURU 3.12 1 AUTUMN NIGHTS 6.28 MAIDEN $15000 GUNNEDAH Race No 5 No Selection R/Price 11 FRAUD 4.28 8 THE RUN 6.80 1 BEEGEES 8.26 FM-CL2 $15000 GUNNEDAH Race No 6 No Selection R/Price 4 RHYTHM OF CUBA 4.23 5 ZUPAFLIRT 4.44 1 SHE'S INVINCIBLE 5.20 BM-65 $15000 GUNNEDAH Race No 7 No Selection R/Price 1 IWILLDOIT 3.92 7 INTREPIDO 4.23 4 RACECRAFT 5.22 CL3 $15000 GUNNEDAH Race No 8 No Selection R/Price 1 HAMMOND LANE 3.03 3 SHARP NOTE 3.51 6 IDLE SHIVER 4.44 MAIDEN $17500 GEELONG Race No 1 No Selection R/Price 3 FELICETTE 2.85 1 HAY PRESTO 2.93 7 SULLIVAN BAY 3.87 2Y-MDN $17500 GEELONG Race No 2 No Selection R/Price 8 DEJA BLUE 2.40 12 SHINING STAR 5.82 4 LANDMARKS 6.09 MAIDEN $17500 GEELONG Race No 3 No Selection R/Price 7 JIM'S DANCER 2.78 8 STARS AT NIGHT 3.81 2 I WANT CANDY 7.11 3F-MDN $17500 GEELONG Race No 4 No Selection R/Price 1 BEAUTIFUL ASSASSIN 3.22 2 BLACK ZIGGY 3.49 8 LA CICCIOLINA 4.41 BM-64 $17500 GEELONG Race No 5 No Selection R/Price 1 WORK THE LINE 2.77 4 RENAUDIN 2.94 5 ROCK TEMPLE 6.85 BM-78 $30000 GEELONG Race No 6 No Selection R/Price 2 INSPECTOR 3.23 1 CROSS OF GOLD 4.84 5 HOLY HEART 4.84 BM-64 $17500 GEELONG Race No 7 No Selection R/Price 5 BOOGIELICIOUS 3.11 6 ESPRIT DE SOL 5.34 2 MACROBIUS 6.19 BM-64 $30000 GEELONG Race No 8 No Selection R/Price 2 HAROLD BLUETOOTH 4.08 1 MILITARY 5.31 5 SHE'S ELLIE 5.31 MAIDEN $15000 WAGGA Race No 1 No Selection R/Price 1 CANNY HENRY 2.62 3 EXCELLENT ORATORIO 4.01 4 DOOGANS RISE 4.85 3Y-MDN $15000 WAGGA Race No 2 No Selection R/Price 3 CATCH YA SLATER 3.25 1 ARIAKE FIRE 4.50 12 HANDFUL OF ACES 4.50 MAIDEN $15000 WAGGA Race No 3 No Selection R/Price 2 EL PAPPA 2.54 6 I'LLTELLYOUSOON 7.33 1 BEAUT BOPA 8.81 BM-70 $15000 WAGGA Race No 4 No Selection R/Price 3 MR SOMMERVILLE 2.28 2 JO JO GIRL 3.64 6 ARIBAA 5.87 CL1 $15000 WAGGA Race No 5 No Selection R/Price 2 SKY CRUISER 3.80 3 RUSTY'S DELIGHT 3.96 4 NORTHERN FURY 4.74 BM-70 $15000 WAGGA Race No 6 No Selection R/Price 7 NRIANGI 3.73 6 RULES POINT 4.29 2 EKLANDS 5.43 BM-50 $16000 WAGGA Race No 7 No Selection R/Price 1 SAINT AQUILINA 4.09 4 ITCHYZARIZ 5.19 2 COMBINE 6.07 BM-50 $16000 WAGGA Race No 8 No Selection R/Price 5 ASUNDER 4.30 1 SIR OTTAVIO 4.56 4 KING TIDES IN 6.60 BM-55 $15000 WAGGA Race No 9 No Selection R/Price 1 LEUCURA 2.19 8 WILD IRISH BOY 5.89 11 OH NO GECKO 6.92

garyf 10th July 2015 05:09 PM

Can only comment on Wagga R7 & 8.

Looks fine with what I am looking at,
Both sheets.

Good Luck keep them going.

Cheers.

Shaun 10th July 2015 05:14 PM

Interesting, both ratings lost about 6.5% overall today with a few different results, will check full results later.

Shaun 10th July 2015 05:15 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by garyf
Can only comment on Wagga R7 & 8.

Looks fine with what I am looking at,
Both sheets.

Good Luck keep them going.

Cheers.



I know for me personally i would only look at Class 2 and 70+ rated races with no restrictions such as age or sex.

garyf 10th July 2015 07:04 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaun
I know for me personally i would only look at Class 2 and 70+ rated races with no restrictions such as age or sex.


That's one way of doing If you can sort your races into groups,
Like I do say FAIR-AVER-GOOD-POOR or even individually if,
You have the data that is a huge plus.

Not betting on age related races is also a good thing for you,
That means you can check your race-types & identify female,
Against male then sort them into an exact age.

Maybe 3yo-f or older mares in some of your race types,
Are appearing in your top 1-2-3 selections but can be removed,
For higher strike/rates.

The age of your selections combined with the race type they,
Are appearing in is one of the most important things I look at.

Some hardly ever win yet continually rate well in mine as well.

Seeing you can I.D. non age related races this is a huge plus for sure,
In this sorting out procedure.

You can also get an individual race(s) & see what order wins them,
For you and most importantly where.

Often you will find your top pick winning at a certain age(s),
In say Syd-Cntry in a certain race type

In other situations it will be your 2nd or 3rd pick at another,
Age group in another race-type in another place say Qld-Prov etc.

You have already done the hard yards.

You have a sound selection method.

You have it automated.

You have history in terms of data.

All now that is to happen is to determine sorting,
Out when & where to back them & how to sort out,
Which one of the 3 it will be.

Believe me while your top pick may have the best,
Strike/Rate win the most, or lose the least you cannot,
Go down that path.

Everyone of your picks can win just the method in the sorting,
Out procedure is all that is left.

This unless you use the right method(s) can lead to disaster,
So please be careful with the process you adopt.

It will make or break you.

Have been there before & lost a considerable,
Amount of money I am not proud to say taking the wrong filters.

My top 1-2-3 kept maintaining the strike/rate but,
I invariably was on the ones that did not win.

Hope this bit helps.

Cheers.
Garyf.

Shaun 11th July 2015 12:41 AM

Sounds like a plan there, the only thing i have really done is decided that particular races work best for me, mostly open and above and the higher graded races midweek, i guess because of more exposed form, but also looking at just today's there were winners all over the place, i listed the top 3 but financially it is better to just stick with the top 2, combined they have atleast a 40% win sr on the right races.


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