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Old 24th December 2007, 08:47 PM
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Hey, maybe I can just keep betting more and more til it wins to recoup all costs, if it doesn't win, I'll just line up at the soup kitchen
Yes, and when it wins you'll be able to start a thread on a forum somewhere, with something like....

"Hello all, I wonder how many of you have dreamed of a betting system that is like being given gold for free. Well, I have it. I get fixed odds and I always finish in front. Since I started using this system, one of many I have, I've finished in front every time I have used it. Every time I hit a winner I'm a winner. They might be able to stop you at roulette with things like table limits and even banning you, but they can't stop me betting on a horse until I hit a winner and finishing in front every time I get a winner."
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Old 25th December 2007, 01:29 AM
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Can someone tell me why this thread is tagged "The Free Gold System"?
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Old 25th December 2007, 10:25 AM
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yes, still waiting on the 'system' part to rear its proverbial

or can i take it one simply doubles up on the fav until 'in front'?

merry xmas
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Old 25th December 2007, 07:53 PM
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They might be able to stop you at roulette with things like table limits and even banning you
Roulette is one of a casino's biggest earner. In the U.S. with the 2x zeros THE TABLE RAKES IN 5.26% advantage. Over the last 20yrs its been described as a "suckers game" by virtually every gambling authority.
To suggest that a casino has limits to stop your method of betting is a little uneducated on the casino front and i'm hoping you dont really think that & that perhaps it was due to your excitement. If you were to tell a casino your plans they would happily accomodate you. & happily take the tables 1.26% - 2.7% every time ( based on only the '0' & not the second '00' )
I think if you were to go into any casino & using the 'ABC'S -The Chasers war..." method of stealing some air time & ask over the loud speaker for all those hands up who were in here based upon >> walking the tables until you see 8 in a row of black then doubling up on red until you won"....a dozen hands would slowly rise.
Go in a month later and you would be lucky to see any of them still doing it.

The casinos still have roulette
Its one of their biggest earners
The table limits are there until you ask for a higher limit in a different room where the better trained staff can accomodate you.

I dont agree or disagree with your methods. Even this system i'm trialling on this site wont show more then 2 losers in a row place betting. I know you may not be refering to place betting & it requires more of a bank behind you but 2 losers only then a winner place betting at $1.40 or $1.50 isnt alot of money going with your betting strategies anyway.

im sure the faster this goes away the better....... Keep your 'winning system' to yourself and good luck. Theres plenty in here who are very very green when it comes to basic system punting and dont even believe its possible. When you 1st spot them it becomes more obvious everytime they post they just dont grasp the whole thing. They are in here to learn.....some more then others. I am in here to further my learning and to see how a few are also going about it. Unfortunately theres 10% who are and 90% who are not. I enjoy the posts of those who are, which is why i come back.
I am a semi pro who bets 6/7 days a week and earns a good living from punting (i mean more then i can earn in unskilled employment)......however i can post in an instant quotes from 3 regulars in here who claim i cant be making a cent betting how i do. They even dedicated a half a thread to it once! Yet I havent found a thread....anywhere.... from 2 of these 3 to have ever claimed they are makin money from punting.
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You must be kidding on the ownership thing??? When you get bills in the mail, which it doesnt sound like you ever have......it hurts!
go to http://www.anthonycummings.com.au/purchase.asp

no reason why i picked it other then its a link on racenet that i visit daily & that Anthony Cummings is a master at picking value horses...backed up by anyone thats read the might and power book too. His father and he would be our leaders in picking horses on expected ability and not price. Scroll all the way through this list and keep in mind theres no better value for money buyers around & look at the results.

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Old 25th December 2007, 08:18 PM
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Even this system i'm trialling on this site wont show more then 2 losers in a row place betting. I know you may not be refering to place betting & it requires more of a bank behind you but 2 losers only then a winner place betting at $1.40 or $1.50 isnt alot of money going with your betting strategies anyway.


A $1.40 for a place when the proper odds should be $1.20 is not bad.

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Theres plenty in here who are very very green when it comes to basic system punting and dont even believe its possible.

Small Christmas gift to those who don't know, (probably very few?)
If you are a place bettor look at the win/place ratio and if it is better then it should be, go for it! maybe even for each way!
Example: win $3.10 place $1.50. Win $6.20 place $1.90!!
As to turn a losing system into a winning one by staking!? Logically, and mathematically it's not possible, all you can hope for is luck! That's gambling not punting.
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Old 25th December 2007, 10:11 PM
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As to turn a losing system into a winning one by staking!? Logically, and mathematically it's not possible,
That quote is just wrong.

It is possible both logically and mathematically.

For most systems/selection methods it will not work. I can agree with that statment but to put a blanket on it saying it won't work is incorrect.

If you have a high enough strike rate and the odds show a loss at level stake you can make a profit ising a progressive staking plan.

Mathematically it is always possible as there is no theoretical limit to how much you can bet.

Logically 99% of people stuff it up because they don't understand the risks and how to minimise them. For those that spend the time looking can make a nice profit. For the others who just say its not possible well that is too bad for them. If you play with it for a while you can see what the problems are ( ie large loss after x bets) and you can come up with solutions to them.

Good Luck.

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Old 25th December 2007, 11:40 PM
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Yes, it can work, but eventually the odds will catch up.
If they don't it is clear that the better staked selections show a profit.
If one can find them, why bother staking?
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Old 25th December 2007, 11:44 PM
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For most systems/selection methods it will not work
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If you have a high enough strike rate and the odds show a loss at level stake you can make a profit ising a progressive staking plan.
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Well written Wes.

If you were to line up 50 systems that were based on a good selection criteria, that was winning, on a unit for unit basis
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50 systems that were based on a selection criteria that couldnt win, on a unit for unit basis, & needed staking intervention to make profits.........

Then its obvious to say that when reporting back in 12months time the first 50 would still be there....as in all 50 of them making profit, 100% garuanteed.
Only probably a few of the 2nd 50 would be there, only because of street wiseness by the operator and a decent bank.

its not impossible as youve stated....it just lacks long jevity.

My beliefs from readings & hands on >> are those that use it only do so because they dont yet have a winning unit for unit system & although they know its risky have no other choice. Those that do have a unit for unit winning system will never, ever tread those waters.

The risk in staking / doubling up / retreiving .....is soley on a user pays system >>> if you have to use it to make profit u risk paying a hefty price. If you have a unit for unit system, you dont need it, then punting is very much a risk free environment.

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Old 26th December 2007, 07:03 AM
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It is possible both logically and mathematically.


Prove it!
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Old 26th December 2007, 08:36 AM
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Its good to see I am now getting supporters here of my betting system. Because yes. It can be done. High falutin theory doesn't work in the rough and tumble of REAL betting. What WORKS is practice. DOING. Not pretending. Not saying "It can't be done" in theory so I am not going to attempt it. All I need are my great system selections, deciding whether or not to back them when I see what they are and the betting, then staking them right. I expect to be a winner again today. Now all those who say it can't be done, I hope your all winning or as usual is this sour grapes from those who cannot do, so they say it cannot be done?
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