No pp odds for Devonport except R2 and no pp odds Ipswiich.

DEVONPORT
R2 AT ST. GEORGE

GEELONG
R6/6 CONISTON GEM
R7/1 FEARLESS WATERS*
R8/5 STRADDLES*

*Might be worth a win bet too.

Better late than never:

DEVONPORT
R6/2 SAHARA STAR
R8/1 ACTIONPACKJACKSON

IPSWICH
R4/4 DANERIDGE
R5/2 COMANACA
R6/1 SWEET RANSOM
R7/1 DISCOINTICA

Overall Outlay 32 units. Return 33.38. Profit 1.38 units. Needs a bit of a lift

Crash, that's 4.31% POT, and would be considered by a lot of "clever people"

as VERY GOOD!! i.e. 1000 bets a year of $2000 = $2,000,000 x 4.31%= 86 grand not bad..........

Thanks for the votes Party :-)
Not a good result today. I should have included Ipswich R1 and R2, both winners.

DEVONPORT
R2 AT ST. GEORGE
R6/2 SAHARA STAR [w$6.50/p$2.80]
R8/1 ACTIONPACKJACKSON

GEELONG
R6/6 CONISTON GEM [w$4.50/p$1.90]
R7/1 FEARLESS WATERS*
R8/5 STRADDLES*

IPSWICH
R4/4 DANERIDGE
R5/2 COMANACA [p$1.42]
R6/1 SWEET RANSOM
R7/1 DISCOINTICA

w11units. Return on p = 5.12 units. Loss on place 4.88 units.
Starting to look good as a win system perhaps[?]. Anyway, it's wide open until I work out some rules that will increase the place SR for sure, not what I think will work.

Gday Crash

the removal of a selection for the place because of 6 runners intrigues me.. Why is it not a bet... they pay a win and 2 places for a 6 horse field.. Isn't the dividend better when only paying two place divvies? The pool is divided by 2 instead of 3?..

This is a genuine question, coz I see lotsa people flick 7 and 6 horse fields, but to me that doesnt make lotsa sense.. To my way of thinking if you find a place getter in these circumstances the rewards are higher...

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Crash, Here's a place system that might be worthwile, I have been working on it for a while, and opened a seperate TAB account to run it on small bets to see how it goes, will keep you updated.

NO form odds only.

29/03/06

15:15

06032900037

29/03/06

KEMBLA GRANGE

4

7 Montgresin

Place

$54.00

29/03/06

15:01

06032900035

29/03/06

KEMBLA GRANGE

4

7 Montgresin

Place

$20.00

29/03/06

14:54

06032900031

29/03/06

GEELONG

4

7 Daneheart

Place

$52.00

29/03/06

14:45

06032900025

29/03/06

GEELONG

4

7 Daneheart

Place

$20.00

29/03/06

14:45

06032900023

29/03/06

IPSWICH

2

5 Variegation

Place

$44.00

29/03/06

14:37

06032900021

29/03/06

IPSWICH

2

5 Variegation

Place

$20.00

29/03/06

14:28

06032900018

29/03/06

KEMBLA GRANGE

3

4 Scoot

Place

$20.00

29/03/06

14:28

06032900016

29/03/06

MURRAY BRIDGE

3

7 Single Malt

Place

$46.00

29/03/06

14:20

06032900014

29/03/06

MURRAY BRIDGE

3

7 Single Malt

Place

$20.00

29/03/06

14:10

06032900011

29/03/06

GEELONG

3

6 Control Bridge

Place

$20.00

29/03/06

13:52

06032900008

29/03/06

KEMBLA GRANGE

2

5 Humble Beginnings

Place

$20.00

29/03/06

13:52

06032900006

29/03/06

KEMBLA GRANGE

1

10 Dream Machine

Place

$52.00

29/03/06

13:18

06032900004

29/03/06

KEMBLA GRANGE

1

10 Dream Machine

Place

$20.00

Cheers.

Yep, Yep. Yep
XP, I [now] totally agree with all you are saying and am going to include these small field races. Thanks.

Hi Kenchar,

Good results but what is the actual system ["Here's a place system that might be worthwhile"] your recommending, or are you just posting results?

Cheers, Crash

I have now adjusted the rules but as always they are a guide.
Considering the amount of races on Sat. I'm thinking of adding: Must have a win or place in one of the runners last 2 starts or perhaps a min. place SR [?]


PLACE THE RULE-FITTING FAVORITE SYSTEM

Any day except Sunday or night and public holiday meetings.
Ignore Cups, Hurdles, Maidens, 2yr olds and Stakes races.
Distances: any to 2050m only and in 'good' conditions only.

1. select the PP favorite.
2. must not be second up.
3. Ignore horse over 6 yrs.
5. must have raced within the last 18 days.
6. do not back females against males [unless her name starts with Macka:-)]
7. must have at least placed at the distance [or within 50m from it]
9. if the PP favorite fits the above it's a Place bet.
10.if the favorite doesn't fit the rules move on to the second favorite etc.
11.if more than 1 horse is on the 2nd fav. line, the lower TAB No. is 2nd. etc.
12.ignore the race if one of the first 4 PP favorites doesn't fit the rules.

Interestingly I tried out the basic system last Monday night for awhile on the Greyhounds for something to do.

AIS:

GREYS GO WILD COSMO
ANGLE PARK Race 11 50.00 IAS-SP Place AUD 37.00 W
27/03/2006
8:30:50 PM 340200D10A-2464449
GREYS BLACK FANTASY
WENTWORTH PK Race 8 50.00 IAS-SP Place AUD -50.00 L
27/03/2006
8:29:07 PM B402002191-2464435
GREYS RUBBER SOUL
ALBION PARK Race 7 50.00 IAS-SP Place AUD 26.50 W
27/03/2006
8:27:34 PM 720200A29A-2464410
GREYS BRANDEEN NICK
ANGLE PARK Race 10 50.00 IAS-SP Place AUD 10.50 W
27/03/2006
8:14:55 PM DAF10881E3-2464226
GREYS OUR BETTE
WENTWORTH PK Race 7 50.00 IAS-SP Place AUD 31.50 W
27/03/2006
8:13:05 PM FAF10840EB-2464198
GREYS POSSUM JENKINS
ALBION PARK Race 6 50.00 IAS-SP Place AUD 25.00 W
27/03/2006
8:03:08 PM 66F1005088-2464077
GREYS COBALT IZMIR
ANGLE PARK Race 9 50.00 IAS-SP Place AUD 63.50 W
27/03/2006
8:02:04 PM D4F1005371-2464069
GREYS DOLLY MINT
WENTWORTH PK Race 6 50.00 IAS-SP Place AUD 20.70 W
27/03/2006
7:56:58 PM 92F100A2E2-2464003
GREYS BITA CRAZY
ALBION PARK Race 5 50.00 IAS-SP Place AUD 48.00 W
27/03/2006
7:47:08 PM 8EE1089202-2463871
GREYS BLACK REWARD
ANGLE PARK Race 8 50.00 IAS-SP Place AUD 16.00 W
27/03/2006
7:45:07 PM 1EE108F002-2463850
GREYS FAITHFUL LOVE
WENTWORTH PK Race 5 50.00 IAS-SP Place AUD 32.00 W
27/03/2006
7:28:07 PM 16E10083A5-2463681
GREYS ELITE LILLY
WENTWORTH PK Race 4 70.00 IAS-SP Place AUD 30.00 W
27/03/2006
7:06:46 PM 40E100639E-2463503
GREYS ELVIS
WENTWORTH PK Race 3 60.00 IAS-SP Place AUD -60.00 L

A lucky night I think as I noted the bets for Tuesday Greyhounds for a few tracks but didn't bet them. I would have lost badly:-) Maybe Mobnday nights is the way to go[?]

Crash,

Excellent results, but my own belief after a few years betting place is that you have to work to a minimum price of $2, if you want long term profitability.

Those prices you have there are fine IF you can continue the strike rate, but as we all know it is racing after all and we all know what happens.

Cheers