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goldmember 27th August 2005 09:57 AM

Dust to dust, R.I.P

Marcus 27th August 2005 10:32 AM

Bowlers win test matches.

Australia had two bowlers who failed to perform. Despite all the hype, Brett Lee has a test bowling average well over 30. After playing so many tests that is not the bowling average of a top test bowler.

Australia's batting has been badly found out. The pressure is relentless against four excellent pace bowlers with a competent spinner added.

Look at the difference between what Australia's bowling attack came up with compared to England's. When England bowled there was venom in the attack and swing that wasn't there when Australia bowled. England's bowlers as a group are simply in another class.

Australian cricket is now clearly in decline. Australian Test careers will be ended as a result of this series.

Marcus 27th August 2005 10:38 AM

I'll further add Ponting's captaincy is being found out.

On the field he has poor body language when things aren't going well - looks to have the weight of the world on his shoulders. That's hardly the way to get team mates up.

Then there's his decision making, from the howler of sending England in to bat in the second test to the non bowling of Tait towards the end of England's first innings in this test, not giving Tait a chance at picking up five wickets in his first test, when Tait was clearly the most effective pace bowler.

racingnovice 27th August 2005 11:13 AM

The batting has been bad yes but the ************ umpires are shocking. Ponting and martyn both given LBW when they clearly hit the ball first.


When the poms get a free 100-150runs from poor umpire decisions then the aussies lose 2 wickets from poor decisions. It makes it hard for any team to bounce back.


The aussies need to avoid the follow on and struggle for another draw.

goldmember 27th August 2005 11:32 AM

Yes, all teams get good and bad decisions, dont remember anyone complaining when things go australia's way, everyone raved about Clarke's 150 on debut against India, but he was clearly out on 90 and got let off, dont worry the pommies turn will come again [dont know when , but i hope its sooner than later] i just hope that its the pomms better play rather than the aussies sliding downhill, but if its not, maybe were heading back to the dark days of the 80's when we were the easybeats.

racingnovice 27th August 2005 11:49 AM

I know there is always bad decisions but usually only 1 or 2 a game not 4 within 2days all against the 1 team. There is nothing anyone can do about it but all 4 decisions should never have been wrong they wern't that hard.

I'd love to see what ponting puts on his umpires report after the match lol.

goldmember 28th August 2005 06:26 PM

Has anyone got suggestions on these line bets:

Australia

under 405.5 $1.85
over 405.5 $1.85

clarke

under 79.5 $1.85
over 79.5 $1.85

katich

under 55.5 $1.85
over 55.5 $1.85

i need something to watch and bet on

Chuck 28th August 2005 06:56 PM

I'd take both the Katich and Clarke over bets - probably th +405 as well

goldmember 28th August 2005 07:01 PM

thanks , i'll have a couple of bucks on all of them, for some reason i'm in a betting frenzy mode, [ not the norm],want to bet non-stop to day and tonight and probably in the morning.

mad 28th August 2005 07:08 PM

I'd say the opposite goldie, just to confuse matters.

Well at least one wicket expected to fall during the morning session. Just a guess but I'll go Katich under, Clarke under and Aussies under. Hope i'm wrong though.


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